Maybe the idea of you applying deodorant is something they do not associate with natural armpits... and without you even notive it your brain made the link between their proposal and your supposed lack of hygiene... The reason you were so upset about it... and I can understand! Has this man never seen hairy armpits (though he must posses two of them LOL) and their owner applying deodorant to them??

Koyoko, that's probably it!  Thank you!  This is why I love this forum

I think too that it was the request.  I didn't know this man and for him to ask me to do this for him, for a complete stranger...  Do I owe him anything?  I don't think I do!  So why should I surrender to this man's whim?

My attitude is; if you're a lover of hairy women, then APPRECIATE the damned videos and shut your mouth!

lol You're right. Look and shut up (except for those who have INTERESTING things to say of course)
You don't owe anyone anything, and if they request something, it should be reasonable (like a peculiar music...)... not a fantasy to feed they disturbed sexuality (though you will never stop someone from fantasizing)

Keep on, I love your videos, they're just cute

You have introduced a reasonably discussing question: may applying deodorant to inhibit the naturality of a woman who wants to live in according to nature? My immediate answer is that deodorant should be applicated, cause I cannot imagine to agree intense bad odor from the armpits. But in this case I have to give core importance in washing armpits and not to the deodorant. The deodorant must be an anti-odorant with no fragrance (ex. flower aroma), studied by industries to hide natural odor by an artificial one. To eliminate odors (bacteriums responsible of it) is not against nature, it is according to hygiene. I think it should be better to use roll-on deodorant, and not spray: they gently eliminate odors and do not replace natural smell with artificial flower or fruit aroma.

I never said I was enthusiastic about Pam Winter's site. What I did say was that it's getting more action than the other one that was mentioned, but it has its limitations. And yes, the primary one is that she runs it as an offshoot of her pornographic sites, and that link is obvious. Whether it would be possible to have a site discussing female body hair in a way that wouldn't mostly attract horny men, I don't know, but unfortunately Pam Winter's place isn't likely to be the one. I've seen some discussions on (for instance) vegetarian and hippie-oriented sites, but it's never a topic that holds people's attention for long. I've looked at some feminist discussion groups too, but in spite of what their opponents say, female body hair doesn't seem to be very interesting to them!

I only know Hairychat as an occasional visitor. The discussions there aren't interesting enough to keep me looking often. It seems that someone else knows all about it!

On 14/05/2007, Amontillado said :

Whether it would be possible to have a site discussing female body hair in a way that wouldn't mostly attract horny men, I don't know, but unfortunately Pam Winter's place isn't likely to be the one.

Well, Amontillado, how about this one ?

Granted, for a person who wouldn't have any knowledge of french, it would't be the most obvious of choices, but the people here (including myself, as I have translated the instructions) have, for the most part, been very involved in making this Forum a place where we can share thoughts and ideas in the most veritable of fashions.

Of course, we all have our eccentricities, but people here are genuine, Amontillado.

And you know what ? I believe you are too.

You are welcome among us !

Méli, I concur with  Koyoko. That guy's request (or demand, even) seemed unusual.

I've always said that you should always trust your intuition, and in this case, yours was telling you that this didn't feel right.  

Ok, folks; t'is the season of vacation time for many upon us soon. After a heavy workload, it's now my time to take a week off.

I'll check with you, fellow gals 'n guys soon !

Martin

Méli as left us. According to M.I.E.L, she has decided to, it would seem, leave everything behind, and perhaps make a fresh start.

I am sorry to see her go.

(I've posted a message to her, in french; see ''Actions, évènements, rencontres'', Mise en Contact 2. Canada'')

Martin

It has been days that I'm waiting for her, and I was totally afraid of what now I'm conscious it's real. So, she has gone, and no chance to contact her, for a last embrace. Well, I can't do anything but to front the reality, and that's it. So little time to grateful myself by that new encounter, but it has to be forever. Now I know that in a place in the world, so far away, a great woman exist, and a little part of me will quench its thirst drinking at this source.
Adieu Méli, and will good luck smile to us.

What I learned while I was away...

The following is a message I posted on a Facebook group.  The group is for people who oppose circumcision.

"I don't remove my body hair (I know it's not comparable to circumcision...) but I get similar reactions from people. They laugh, look at me with disgust, try to "reason" with me, etc. So this post will kind of tie your experience with my own (again, I’m not trying to minimize your feelings about being intact).

About having a moral relationship but still wanting to lay it all out (no pun intended) before your girlfriend: I know exactly what that feels like. For a very long time, I told myself that I would NOT date a man unless he knew already that I didn’t remove my body hair. Not only that, but I would DISPLAY my body hair as much as I could in order to AVOID disappointing the man in the future. “This is me, take it or leave it!”

The problem with this way of thinking is that it starts to completely consume you. You lose yourself in the “issue”. You become more about your cause than about ‘you’. For months, I had a YouTube account where I put up videos of myself trying to “raise awareness” for female body hair… Basically, you get so caught up in wanting to justify yourself that it turns into self-torment and you actually become counter-productive. People start to feel like they can’t relate to you at all, like you’ve become too militant and forgot how to be human. You also lose credibility.

The advice I have for you is the same advice I have for myself:
Know that you’re not wrong, that you’re good the way you are, foreskin and all.
If it helps, repeat some encouraging words to yourself in front of a mirror.
The only way you’re going to change people around you is by being a positive example. Yes, you’re different. So what? Show them that you’re still a good person (a better one probably, because your experience forces you to be more open-minded and tolerant). Show them that you can still have a good time (don’t carry this weight on your shoulders, revel in your uniqueness but don’t let it become a burden).

What makes me laugh about people like you and me is that we find groups like this one, where we SEE tons of people JUST LIKE US! And we’re encouraged! And then, ONE negative comment completely throws us off.

You’re not alone, no man is an island!"

You know I've already been told to be "obcene" because of my HAIR (yes, not my BODYhair, just my hair...)... I just can't figure out the man's face seeing my pubic hair LOL

You ARE a better person than those who speak with "Big Brother" voice I can tell you!! Realy you don't have to be ashamed of being different.

As I often say "frequent does not mean normal"

Kisses!!

welcome back Meli!

good to write english some times
seems that you've made a big trip for a while, both inner trip and outside...
I personally regret not to capture some videos you released really outstanding, too much

maybe you were upset by that, being seen like someone you were not, heavy conditioning by society doing the rest...even more with a kind of religious reminiscence!
so just remain yourself, as you know what doesn't kill you makes you stronger

It's a lot of time this english forum is not used, but I need help, now: an english translation. I'm posting here an interesting youtube link, and you can see the video of the model Danielle Lloyd with hairy armpits. Unfortunately, hair is not her natural hair, but is fake, as a make up. I'm asking you a simple translation of the audio comment, cause I don't understand it. Which is the sense of the video? is there a positive or a negative view of hair? It seems hair is seen as weird, so my sensation is not good, but I ask someone to write here an extract of the comment, so I could better understand.
Links of the 2 videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26YI36jdGfI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-GqB1wRDuU&mode=related&search=

Thanks a lot