I'd like to say hello to all women who wish to remain true to themselves, and to the men who are understanding of them, and who will be supportive of them as they proudly stand their ground against this ''norm'' that almost runs amock (figuratively speaking, of course).

Welcome, colleagues !

Martin

Like Martin and all the other users here, I want to extend a warm welcome to all of our English-speaking natural women and their supporters.

A lot of the links we have are links to English language websites.  I hope to transfer them here soon for your pleasure.  I'd like to take advantage of this moment to plug myself: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=BeautyAuNaturel
Because I'm shameless and in-your-face that way

All it takes to launch this English forum is YOUR passion and contribution.  Don't be shy!  Post a message here or write a private message to one of us!

Looking to hear from all of you free-thinkers and lovers of natural beauty!

Méli

Hello everybody!
I'm a French man who has always been fond of hairy women, and who thinks they are far more beautiful than the others, who shave ( though the latter are not to blame, this is just a personal taste of mine ). However, I'd also like to add something: not only are natural women really pretty, but they also show a strong courage in their attitude, because they have decided to remain in their natural state, despite all the naughty commentaries and, unfortunately,  some prejudices deeply rooted in many peoples' minds.
That's why I take the liberty to post this message, and I would like to thank Caveman and Martin, who were the first ones to launch this forum in English. And of course, thanks to BeautyauNaturel who also introduced herself and whose videos both reveal her determination and authenticity.
Hoping to hear from you soon...                      
Poilliop.

Hi, I'm an italian guy very interested to talk about the argument posted in this forum. Thanks to caveman, martin, beautyaunaturel and poilliop if you accept me in your discussion. I'm not very good in english language, but it's also an excercise for me to learn english language. My attitude on female bodyhair will help me.
Hear you soon, bye
Fabio

Hi fong46 !

Welcome !

A movement is in the works here. We would like to reach out to other people sympathetic to our cause.

To help us in this, would you please tell us how you came to hear about us ?

Thanks !

Martin

Hi Martin.
I recently discovered this website and I immediately liked it.
Each time I hear a TV or movie star has converted herself in according to nature (it means that she shows her natural hairy state) I start a research to know how it occurs. This time was my interest on Laetitia Casta that inflamed my research. She has hairy armpits in french movie "Le grand appartement" and I was searching all the resources about that. So I found the discussion posted in ecologielibidinale: it's written in french, and I'm not so good in reading french, but I caught the essence that superstar Laetitia Casta is against epilation, and that was enough for me.
So, it was easy for me to reach this forum and to post a message. I'm active in an italian forum posting messages and pictures, but in Italy too there's not much people interested in this philosophy, but I keep talking.

That's great, fong46 !

Say, do you have a record of most, if not all, actresses who have been unshaven at one time or another ?

And would you like to assist us in building our movement ?

It's great to have you here, fong46 !

Martin

Hi Fabio!  How are you?  Good to see you posting here

Hi friends!
Martin, I have a database under construction: it means that I'm constantly searching for names and pics of actresses that, even a time, were unshaven in a movie. I think it will be a great source for all fans of underarm hair, but I hope it will be a chance for curious people to embrace that philosophy of life. I'm at your service for all informations you need, if you think I was helpful to you. As I said, in my country not many people is interested in this kind of discussion but, as you know, italian girls have been famous for their underarm hair. Unlikely, in recent years, girls have converted in shaving, so that pretty black hair is not so common, now. And how is the situation in your countries?

Méli! I'm reading with great pleasure your greetings. I'm very well, thanks. I will post here, to ask you some information: I think you're a very interesting person and talking to you could be pleasant.

Bye

Sorry, if my english is too bad but I try anyway.

Welcome on this forum fong46 ,

Don't worry: my english too is not perfect. Where are you from? Do you speak french? It will be a pleasure, for me, to talk with you and to learn foreign languages, too. Sometimes I visit the french forum, much more frequented. I will try to message there, too.
Bye

I thing your better than me, because my english is very very basic.

I live in Quebec and I speak french.

You're welcome on the french forum to practice the french language. More the crazy people we are, better is the fun.

Ciao

I'm active, on my yahoo group, to post pics, vidcaps, comments. I've also written a brief story, dedicated to underarm sensuality. It's really an ode to armpits, introducing a visionary point of view that inflames love passion. It is a styling excercise, and it's written in italian, as I can't exprime my poetry in other languages than my mothertongue. Anyone of you had tried to write something this way? I think you have a poetic soul, so it could be easy to poetically express your thoughts.

fong46, I'd like to invite you take a long at the following link, of which I started the thread (topic).

 http://www.rabble.ca/babble/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=24&t=001169

Or, if you preffer, once on that website, click on ''feminism'', and then go to ''Remaining yourself, remaining natural: body image acceptance''.

By the way, can't wait to hear about your database !

Martin

Here is the link to the group. Subscribe and go to "file" section (or "documenti"); "Hairy armpits in movies" is the name of our database. The interest is that by every name (at least the ones that we've found) you can join the related pic, posted on "foto" section

http://it.groups.yahoo.com/group/ascellepeloseclub/

Try and tell me if you like it. Have fun

Fabio

HI~  Méli

I have see your video clips in youtube,

you are very beautiful~

Natural Beauty is the best~

support you forever





PS: I come from Hong Kong~
My english is not good~

Don't worry FILE2 it's allright if your English is not perfect... many of us here speak different languages, French, Italian and I may be forgetting many. Don't bother, just chat (Actually I'm French and my English is (almost) fluent...)

Chu!

Hi everybody. I've been in London for holiday, last days. It was funny. I searched for natural hairy girls but I've not found: all girls were shaved. Even so, I found well looking and affable People.
Now I come back into my daily routine, so I will restart my search of hairy sources and my activity into this forum. I hope in a lucky summer, full of hairy views. I'm quiet lucky, living on the sea, in Italy. Yesterday I went to the beach for the first time this year. All girls were shaved, but being the first time for most of them, some girls had a bit amount of hair, not still able to remove all the hair after the winter pause of shaving.
I will post next experiences on the beach, hoping to have interested ones.
bye

FILE2: thank you for your comments and for your support of natural and hairy women

Welcome aboard!
Méli

If you want an English-language discussion board for female body hair, the place to go is Pam WInter's Hairychat (www.hairychat.com). It's much more active than the other site that was mentioned. It really isn't a porn site, but it is fairly sexualized. Pam Winter runs a variety of commercial sex-oriented websites, but she seems to operate Hairychat for fun, and there isn't a lot of advertising or demands for money there.

Another place people might enjoy is a blog run by a woman in New York, called CUSS (Campaign for Unshaved Snatch). Definitely not a sex site, though she has quite a raunchy sense of humor. She's not out to change the world, just to try to make people appreciate female body hair. Actually most of the time she talks about something else. It's at http://cussandotherrants.com/

I received this personal message in my YouTube inbox:

Hello
I realy love to see your videos,
and want to tell u about something that may be new to you...
armpits fetish, people who love armpits
some love them shave, some stubbled, and many love them hairy....
I am the founder of the biggest armpits community world wide.
(URL withheld)
you may join us, I am sure u gonna find alot of fans in our hairy armpits forum
(name withheld)

To which I answered:

Hi (name withheld)

I know your website and I'm not a fan.  I think it further ostracizes women like me, making it more difficult for people to accept body hair in a daily, regular setting.
Fetishes are basically a fancy word for sexualized object dependancy.  And I'm not an object, neither is my body hair.  It's a part of me and it has a life of its own!
I've been getting GREAT feedback here from smart, mature and open-minded people who have a lot to offer, for example a social commentary.  I don't need an impersonal liaison with men from your forum.

I appreciate you coming to me with your offer to check out your site again.  You were respectful in your approach and for that I thank you,
Meli

Would you all care to share your thoughts on this topic?

Hello Meli,

First let me compliment you on your beautiful pits and courage to post videoclips of yourself in public n youtube. I know that it takes someting to do that and you have all my respect. I admire the fact that there are still women out there who are not ashamed to how their natural body in public! We have all been brainwashed by the media over the last 20 years with a barbie-doll like image of the should-be-adult-woman. I can see some women in my entourage (including my own partner) struggling with the negative public opinion about armpits and pubic hair (no bikinitrim etc.).

My reaction to the 2 emails you received:
The first one is positive, I don't know which site it concerns but there is for sure a whole community out there who appreciates natural hairy woman. (I set up a forum myself for this purpose which is http://www.hairy-woman.net/php.)

The second email sounds pretty negative to me, was it sent by a woman? Apparently the person is not completely assured and at ease with her own body and bodyhair. I am not aware of the context however, was it posted on a forum in a thread?

Keep up your nice work!

Greetings to Canada from France.

Cave

Hi Cave!
The first message was sent to me, I replied with the second message.  Basically, I don't consider my body hair a fetish object.  The gentleman was trying to get me to join his armpit worship website where, basically, pictures of hairy women are posted and men masterbate to them.
It took me a very long time to find people who enjoyed female body hair who DIDN'T have some kind of sexual ADDICTION to it.

Some of my supporters are armpit hair fetishists.  They don't really contribute anything to this debate.
Most however are intelligent people who believe in TRUTH first and foremost.  Those are the people I want on my side!

Méli, I hear you, and totally agree with you !

In response to Amontillado, I do not share your enthusiasm about ''HairyChat''.
Upon closer look and more thorough examination, one can observe that the number of - and this is important - serious participants has severely dwindled over the years.

I know about her work, her tremendous ordeal with her PCOS affliction, and her efforts, her struggle even, to demonstrate to society that the acceptance of a woman's natural self should be a part of the normality of everyday life, as it should normally be, in a logical world.

I do not question her continued sincerity. After all, she still advocates the same ideals that she always has when she launched her magazine ''Hair to Stay'', from 1996 to 2001, I believe. (Although I have not held her publication in my very hands, I have seen some elements (or samples) online).

As one can see while probing, when she started online, in 2002, there were many sensible posts from genuine people back then. The same can be said of the PCOS Chat; a woman even referring to other fellow women suffering from the same illness by greeting them as ''sisters''. The base of followers and supporters was sound, the capital of sympathy seemed real: she was off to a great start !

There was even talk of a grand gathering of all the members of it's forum ! It is even credited as having been instrumental in how two members met and eventually formed a couple ! The man even thanked Pam !

Indeed, the outlook was very promising...

 
Alas, perhaps in need of a second income, she soon afterwards misguidingly resorted to something that would, in my opinion, ultimately prove detrimental to her crusade.

She affiliated herself outright with the porn industry.

Her sites are now littered with whatever publicity that industry wants to present; she even comments on what they have to offer, which isn't respectful at all to women in general most of the time.

I'm sorry to have to be adamant about this, but I can only conclude that, in deciding to play with fire, she has burnt herself.

Women noticed, and took heed. As a consequence, they, along with many authentically supportive men, deserted her forums. Her credibility is now very low. Because she has decided to cater to that particularly sordid form of business, She has lost most of it.

I deeply regret to have to say that about her. I regret that it had to come down to this.

But she is no longer in a position to help the movement that she was so instrumental in creating.

What I'm about to say is incredibly harsh, but she can no longer be seen as an ally, but as a hindrance.

The Pam Winters that was was a heroine; the Pam Winters she became is a shame.

Martin